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[英国]英格兰八大区是否有明确驻地 [复制链接]

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只看楼主 倒序阅读 0 发表于: 2020-12-26
英格兰没有自己的议会,英国国议会直接代表英格兰议会?!事实主要只承办英格兰事物?!
与苏格兰议会、威尔士议会、北爱议会是怎样一种关系?!

英国议会名义上可以囊括三者?!或者说英格兰是英国直管区?!。。。
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只看该作者 1 发表于: 2020-12-26
大陆没有自己的政府,中国政府直接代表大陆政府,事实主要只承办大陆事务
与香港政府、澳门政府会是怎么样一种关系?

中国政府名义上可以囊括两者。或者说大陆是中国直管区。
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只看该作者 2 发表于: 2020-12-26
另外,英国除伦敦外的8个大区,已经基本上沦为地理区了。
2010年废除Regional Assembly后,由功能更弱的Councils代替。而且东北、西米2个大区连Councils都解散了,约亨干脆就没成立Councils,3个都已经是纯地理区了。

其中,东北大区Councils的职能已经全部由东北、蒂斯河谷2个联合政府瓜分。


大区本来就是为NUTS配套设立的(英国每个NUTS1都在欧盟有几个议席),但以英国人自由散漫的调调,大区从一开始就是不成功的。所以被不断弱化。随着英国脱欧,NUTS本身都将变成地理划分,大区就更不要提了。
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只看该作者 3 发表于: 2020-12-26
Councils的功能就像我们现在的某某论坛一样,已经沦为谘询性机构。每年议员们碰几次头,召开几次会议,就相关热门事务交流下意见。
以前有执行机构时,8个大区都有驻地。现在,每次会议的地点,都是由召集者决定的。英国的大区,也就是中国的地级市这么大,一天足够打个来回了。

2010年之前8个大区发展署(RDA)驻地:
东英格兰发展署(EEDA):驻剑桥
东米德兰兹发展署(EMDA):驻诺丁汉
约克发展署(Yorkshire Forward):驻利兹
东北发展署(One NE ):驻纽卡斯尔
西北大区发展署(NWDA):驻沃灵顿
西米德兰兹发展署(Advantage WM):驻伯明翰
西南英格兰大区发展署(SWEDA):驻埃克塞特
东南英格兰发展署(SEEDA):驻吉尔福德

另外伦敦发展署(LDA)运作到2012年结束。
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只看该作者 4 发表于: 2020-12-26
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夕阳西下:Councils的功能就像我们现在的某某论坛一样,已经沦为谘询性机构。每年议员们碰几次头,召开几次会议,就相关热门事务交流下意见。
以前有执行机构时,8个大区都有驻地。现在,每次会议的地点,都是由召集者决定的。英国的大区,也就是中国的地级市这么大,一天足够打个来回了。
.. (2020-12-26 13:02) 


选址都还算合理,沃灵顿选得不错,平衡曼城、利物浦。
英格兰郡治也有几个意想不到:

比如surrey,驻伦敦境内的泰晤士河畔金士顿。
难道东南大区驻地就是surrey在吉尔福德的老郡治?!

东Sussex驻刘易斯
西Sussex驻奇切斯特
这些都是强镇切块独立的结果。

当然还有郡下的一些附郭区驻也是(经常出现迁驻)。
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只看该作者 5 发表于: 2020-12-27
大英的地方政府和中国的政府性质不一样,一个是服务一个是管理。
只看该作者 6 发表于: 2020-12-27
这种传统的方位大区(实际上不是行政区)
欧洲各国传统历史上大部分都有。
  肃风吹飞絮,零落从此始。繁华有憔悴,堂上生荆杞。
  秋水载落叶,漂泊垂天止。北冥无常势,乌衣何靡靡。
只看该作者 7 发表于: 2020-12-28
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ht7729312:大英的地方政府和中国的政府性质不一样,一个是服务一个是管理。 (2020-12-27 10:53) 

都2021年了,还有人信这个。
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只看该作者 8 发表于: 2020-12-29
是的,英格蘭沒有自己的議會,所以有可能造成某種問題:來自蘇格蘭的MP能立法影響英格蘭,但英格蘭的MP沒有權利影響蘇格蘭議會權限下的事務,這又稱為西洛錫安問題。至於關係具體來說要看相關法例,特別是北愛爾蘭議會因為1999年簽訂的和平協議,組成和自治權力與英國本土的議會很不一樣,為了維持脆弱的和諧英國國會很少干預北愛爾蘭事務,工黨和保守黨一般也不直接參與北愛爾蘭政治。
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Vive la liberté!
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henry:是的,英格蘭沒有自己的議會,所以有可能種成某種問題:來自蘇格蘭的MP能立法影響英格蘭,但英格蘭的MP沒有權利影響蘇格蘭議會權限下的事務,這又稱為西洛錫安問題。至於關係具體來說要看相關法例,特別是北愛爾蘭議會因為1999年簽訂的和平協議,組成和自治權力與英國本土的議會很 .. (2020-12-29 09:37) 

现在英国最大的困境就是,一旦成立英格兰议会。那么大不列颠和北爱尔兰议会就成了空壳子。一旦最高权力机构被架空,那英国离分裂就不远了。
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只看该作者 10 发表于: 2021-02-04
英國正正把對蘇格蘭、北愛爾蘭、威爾斯權力下放稱為Devolution
英語維基的Devolution in the United Kingdom條目就有詳細介紹
Devolution也許是幾十年研究所得的解決方法,因為當初1997年工黨上台,在蘇格蘭、威爾斯權實行Devolution後,1998年的貝爾法斯特協議亦在北愛爾蘭實行Devolution

英格蘭八大區官方最重要用途是在選區劃分,無論是歐盟議會選舉,甚至今年開始的2023國會劃界都是以八大區為基礎。

以下是剛剛一月開始的2023國會劃界行動

2023 Review
Following the passing of the Parliamentary Constituencies Act 2020 in December 2020, and the publication of the relevant Parliamentary electorate data in January 2021, we have now begun a new review of all Parliamentary constituencies in England. We refer to this as the ‘2023 Review’, as we are required to report with our final recommendations by 1 July 2023.

Applying the statutory formula to the electorate figures means the total 650 constituencies will be distributed during the review to the four parts of the UK as follows:

England = 543 (includes two ‘protected’ constituencies on the Isle of Wight);
Scotland = 57 (includes two ‘protected’ constituencies for specified Scottish islands;
Wales = 32 (includes one ‘protected’ constituency on the Isle of Anglesey); and
Northern Ireland = 18
This Commission has applied the same distribution formula to the English allocation, which results in the following redistribution of constituencies among the English regions for the 2023 Review:

Eastern = 61 (increase of three)
East Midlands = 47 (increase of one)
London = 75 (increase of two)
North East = 27 (decrease of two)
North West = 73 (decrease of two)
South East = 91 (increase of seven)
South West = 58 (increase of three)
West Midlands = 57 (decrease of two)
Yorkshire and the Humber = 54 (no change)
Application of further statutory rules to the published electorate also means that all recommended constituencies must have no less than 69,724 Parliamentary electors and no more than 77,062 (except those ‘protected’ constituencies mentioned above).

What happens now?
The BCE will now begin to develop initial proposals for how the new constituencies across England should be drawn up according to this new distribution and the permitted electorate range. We hope to be in a position to publish these initial proposals for public consultation in the early summer, when we will be particularly interested to hear from residents about the extent to which the proposals reflect the local ties in the area.

2023 Review
Following the passing of the Parliamentary Constituencies Act 2020 in December 2020, and the publication of the relevant Parliamentary electorate data in January 2021, we have now begun a new review of all Parliamentary constituencies in England. We refer to this as the ‘2023 Review’, as we are required to report with our final recommendations by 1 July 2023.

Applying the statutory formula to the electorate figures means the total 650 constituencies will be distributed during the review to the four parts of the UK as follows:

England = 543 (includes two ‘protected’ constituencies on the Isle of Wight);
Scotland = 57 (includes two ‘protected’ constituencies for specified Scottish islands;
Wales = 32 (includes one ‘protected’ constituency on the Isle of Anglesey); and
Northern Ireland = 18
This Commission has applied the same distribution formula to the English allocation, which results in the following redistribution of constituencies among the English regions for the 2023 Review:

Eastern = 61 (increase of three)
East Midlands = 47 (increase of one)
London = 75 (increase of two)
North East = 27 (decrease of two)
North West = 73 (decrease of two)
South East = 91 (increase of seven)
South West = 58 (increase of three)
West Midlands = 57 (decrease of two)
Yorkshire and the Humber = 54 (no change)
Application of further statutory rules to the published electorate also means that all recommended constituencies must have no less than 69,724 Parliamentary electors and no more than 77,062 (except those ‘protected’ constituencies mentioned above).

What happens now?
The BCE will now begin to develop initial proposals for how the new constituencies across England should be drawn up according to this new distribution and the permitted electorate range. We hope to be in a position to publish these initial proposals for public consultation in the early summer, when we will be particularly interested to hear from residents about the extent to which the proposals reflect the local ties in the area.

Will you be using the ward-level data published by ONS in January 2021?
Mostly. The ONS publication reflects wards as they currently are, but December 2020 legislation introduced the concept of our work having regard to ‘prospective’ local government boundaries, i.e. wards that have been ‘made’ by legal instrument, but not yet implemented at a subsequent local election. Nearly 10% of local authorities in England (mostly in London) have such ‘prospective’ ward boundaries, and we are currently working with the local Electoral Registration Officers for those areas, to re-allocate the electorates according to those new wards. We will publish the updated ward electorates for those areas with prospective boundaries once we have determined them all.

The list of authorities with ‘prospective’ wards as at 1 December 2020 is: 1) Barnet; 2) Basingstoke and Deane; 3) Brent; 4) Buckinghamshire; 5) Cambridge; 6) Camden; 7) Chorley; 8) Cornwall; 9) Ealing; 10) Enfield; 11) Halton; 12) Hammersmith and Fulham; 13) Haringey; 14) Harrow; 15) Hartlepool; 16) Hillingdon; 17) Hounslow; 18) Isle of Wight; 19) Islington; 20) Lewisham; 21) Merton; 22) North Northamptonshire; 23) Oxford; 24) Pendle; 25) Richmond upon Thames; 26) Rotherham; 27) Salford; 28) Sutton; 29) West Northamptonshire; 30) Westminster; 31) Wiltshire.

What will be your process and policies for the 2023 Review?
We aim to publish a ‘Guide to the 2023 Review’ this spring, which will set out the detail of the process we will follow through the course of the review, and the policies we will follow in doing that work. Our initial outline timetable is planned as follows:

Jan 2021: Begin development of initial proposals;
Spring 2021: Publish ‘Guide to the 2023 Review’, and ward-level electorate figures for areas with ‘prospective’ wards;
Early summer 2021: Publish initial proposals and conduct eight-week written consultation;
Early 2022: Publish responses to initial proposals and conduct six-week ‘secondary consultation’, including between two and five public hearings in each region;
Late 2022: Publish revised proposals and conduct four-week written consultation
June 2023: Submit and publish final report and recommendations.
All information will be published via this section of our website, with key updates and notifications also issued via our Twitter account @BCEReviews.





只看该作者 11 发表于: 2021-02-04
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夕阳西下:现在英国最大的困境就是,一旦成立英格兰议会。那么大不列颠和北爱尔兰议会就成了空壳子。一旦最高权力机构被架空,那英国离分裂就不远了。 (2020-12-30 06:37) 

英格兰肯定不能成立议会。苏联就是这样死的。
苏格兰人搞不死英国,但是英格兰人可以。
只看该作者 12 发表于: 2023-04-17
英国的单一管理区算不算个市镇。
中央行政区划委员会是行政区划改革工作的核心领导和决策部门。主要职责:1.编制规划地方三级管理体制。2.审核批准各级政区的设立标准和规模,地名和边界标准化。3.组织指导各个政区的官员级别和套改工作。
只看该作者 13 发表于: 2023-04-17
实际承担了基层政权的职能
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东亚第一精英:英国的单一管理区算不算个市镇。 (2023-04-17 14:34) 

已经是一种混合政区了。

怎么描述呢,套用中国原来对行政村和自然村的描述。一个行政村可以是一个自然村,也可以包括多个自然村,也可以是多个行政村才管一个自然村(如北方的一些某某一村、某某二村之类的)

一元区差不多也是这样了。都市区是多管一。早期的一元区基本上是一对一(非都市区改一元区)。后期的郡改一元区(郡下的非都市区直接撤销),就是一管多了。
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