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只看楼主 倒序阅读 0 发表于: 2007-05-26
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      由于我既是地理迷,也是球迷,最近我研究1979年女足亚洲杯发现,当时印度有两支代表队——南印度与北印度之分?这是怎么回事?
当届比赛是在印度卡利卡特举行的,当时也正是中华台北女足——也就是赫赫有名的木兰女足的鼎盛时期,1977、1979、1981连续三届女足亚洲杯由木兰女足捧杯,而1979年女足亚洲杯预赛木兰女足与北印度队0:0踢平,到了决赛阶段,最后闯入决赛的是木兰女足与南印度女足,木兰女足2:0胜南印度女足最终捧杯,南印度女足也是东道主嘛,卡利卡特就是在南印度,只是不知为何当时印度会有南北之分呢?是政治方面的还是纯体育方面的?
另外请台湾朋友提供点当年木兰女足的信息,尤其是1981年以前的战绩,我知道后来由于众所周知的政治原因,木兰女足远走大洋洲,但也同样在大洋洲杯连续两届捧杯,最后又回来恢复了亚足联会籍后,参加了1989年女足亚洲杯,但发现已是中国女足的江山了,决赛0:1负于中国女足,但这时木兰女足还只是在走下坡,还没完全衰落,到1991年女足世界杯时与中国女足同样闯入了八强,中国女足列第五,木兰女足列第八,之后就彻底衰落了,其实现在的中国女足与当年的木兰女足很像,也处于衰落期,呵呵!!
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
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只看该作者 1 发表于: 2007-05-27
顶上来,难道没哪个朋友知道那个南印度与北印度之分?
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
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只看该作者 2 发表于: 2007-05-27
当时印度有两支女足,一支是 曼尼普尔邦Manipur,一支是 孟加拉 Bengal,不是南北印度.

http://www.indien-netzwerk.de/navigation/frauen/artikel/achaudhuri-womenfootball.htm


英国也有四支足球队参加世界杯,中国也有香港和澳门队啦,日后台湾回归后更添多一队啦!
[ 此贴被mingming在2007-05-27 05:51重新编辑 ]
只看该作者 3 发表于: 2007-05-27
只看该作者 4 发表于: 2007-05-27
维基百科  中华台北足球
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E8%8F%AF%E8%87%BA%E5%8C%97%E5%9C%8B%E5%AE%B6%E5%A5%B3%E5%AD%90%E8%B6%B3%E7%90%83%E9%9A%8A


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木蘭女足
1974年10月亞洲女足的領導人陳瑤琴率香港女子足球隊到台灣參加萬壽杯(中正盃前身)時,向當時的中華民國足球協會表示,希望台灣能選出5名女球員加入亞洲女足明星隊赴各國巡迴賽,以帶動亞洲女足發展。

中華足協於是年的12月22日及25日分別在台北及台中體育場首次舉行選拔賽,共有七十多人參加。當時足協理事長鄭為元將軍指示選出24名球員組成球隊作長期集訓對外比賽。當時選拔產生的女子足球隊員計:準備赴香港受訓的5名為吳昭蓉、黃碧月、吳桂梅、楊秀枝及董美嬌,另選出19名好手則為:黃映雪、夏翠鳳、彭璇衣、賴燕玲、穆華、何美貞、張敏惠、林阿免、吳玉珠、翁瑞鳳、張郁雅、駱明瑤、林秀玲、許淑賢、楊玉瑛、黃紋卿、陳慧如、鄭素蓮、孫劍翔,由劉潤澤擔任教練工作,於1975年1月20日在台中體育場展開一個月的集訓,正式成立台灣足球史上第一支女足代表隊,並命名為「中華木蘭女足隊」,從此「木蘭」便成為中華女足的代名詞。

到了1976年的台灣足協盃,重新選拔女國腳,集訓兩個月後於1977年1月5日出國訪問東南亞比賽,因政治因素不能以中華民國隊名出現在泰、新、印尼等地比賽,所以代表隊球衣上只繡『木蘭』兩個字。


[编辑] 成績

[编辑] 世界盃足球賽成績
1991 - 八強
1995 - 外圍賽
1999 - 外圍賽
2003 - 外圍賽

[编辑] 亞洲盃成績
1975 - 未有參加
1977 - 冠軍
1979 - 冠軍
1981 - 冠軍
1983 - 未有參加
1986 - 未有參加
1989 - 亞軍
1991 - 季軍
1993 - 第四名
1995 - 第四名
1997 - 篙四名
1999 - 亞軍
2001 - 初賽圈
2003 - 初賽圈
2006 - 初賽圈

[编辑] 大洋洲國家盃
1986 - 冠軍
1989 - 冠軍

[编辑] 奧林匹克運動會
1996 - 外圍賽
2000 - 外圍賽
2004 - 外圍賽

[编辑] 亞洲運動會
2006 - 初賽圈

[编辑] 球員名單

[编辑] 歷任領隊
張騰雲

劉潤澤

高庸

張子濱

陳定雄

謝志君

張明賢

呂桂花(2003-?)

周台英(2005-present)

[ 此贴被mingming在2007-05-27 06:16重新编辑 ]
只看该作者 5 发表于: 2007-05-27
谢谢mingming的热情提供,2楼的网址打不开,看着是DE的域名应该是德国的,怎么也不打开,晕!!
2楼的那个网站我有点兴趣,可惜打不开……
看一些球赛的过往战绩有一个好网址:www.rsssf.com,这个网站记录的比较全面、真实,全英文的,也比较好懂!!!
[ 此贴被亮晶晶在2007-05-27 19:33重新编辑 ]
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
http://weibo.com/u/1345017411
只看该作者 6 发表于: 2007-05-27
让我拷贝一部分上来,可能只是4分一.

The following section will examine in depth the question whether women's football is also on the rise in India or not:


Women's Football in INDIA

Like in the men's game, India was a front-runner in the women's game in Asia when it started.
Initially football was brought to India in the 1880s by the British colonial rulers but at first football was primarily played by the British stationed in India, mainly army teams playing against each other. But Indians soon took to the game and it started to change slowly over the decades. In 1911 when Mohun Bagan won the IFA-Shield trophy in Calcutta, it was a historic win for Indian football. It took another two to three decades for Indian football to make its breakthrough, becoming the most popular sport in India. But over the last two decades football?s popularity has dropped considerably. Just this year wit the good show of the Indian national team interest in the game seems to come back.

The women's game took another couple of decades to take off at all in India.
The beginnings of women's football in India can be traced back to until the early 1970s though the game is yet to take firm root throughout the Indian sub-continent. The national team has done reasonably well on a number of occasions in the Asian Women's circuit, finishing runners-up in the Asian Women's Championships in 1979 and 1985. In 1979 India was the host of the third Asian Women?s Championships, which was held in the southern Indian port city of Calicut. Six teams, Australia, Hong Kong, Mulan Taipei, Malaysia and two teams from the hosts India participated in the championships. The Championship was won by Mulan Taipei with India A finishing as runners-up.
The first Senior National Championship for Women was held in 1975 in the Uttar Pradesh capital of Lucknow.


Class prevailed over exuberance. This aptly summed up Manipur's golden goal victory over Bengal in the seventh senior National women's football championship final at the Polo ground here on Saturday. The hard-fought win was Manipur's fifth in seven years.
There was not an iota of doubt as to which team was the best in the summit class. Endowed with natural built, the Manipuri girls exhibited exemplary skill, speed and stamina, the three Ss very important in football, in abundance in their title triumph. What the Manipuri girls lacked was in tactical sense and bit of imagination.
Bengal knew it had a big battle in hand and it had only one option to win the clash by scoring in a counter attack. But Manipur saw through the game and it did not allow the Bengal forwards to cause any damage though the game went into extra-time after a goalless regulation 80 minutes.
(The Hindu, 23 May 1999)

Like in the men's game, Bengal's women were the initial leaders in the game but in the last decade, the women from Manipur have not only come up but have even overtaken the women from Bengal. Having won the last four National championship finals against Bengal, Manipur are now the undisputed champions and form the core group of the Indian women's national team, along with their Bengali rivals.
The simplest way to prove the dominance of the two teams from Manipur and Bengal is to go through the list of finals of the National championships. The final always reads: Manipur against Bengal; with Manipur winning in seven editions, while Bengal won the other two of the nine editions.
What makes the Manipur against Bengal final interesting is the different styles of play and tactics between the two best teams in India. The biggest strength of Manipur is their speed and its stamina, which enable them to last the entire match, while Bengal relies on individual flair and collective wisdom. The Manipuri tactic is ruthless, with the team attacking throughout the match, making high margin wins nothing special in a match involving Manipur. Meanwhile Bengal totally depends on their ability to surprise the opposition with their unpredictable nature of play. Bengal is also tactically better than Manipur, as they can play a wait and watch game if needed, often not winning by as high margins as Manipur.
The game progressed especially well in Manipur because women in the state have participated actively in every walk of life and football is the most popular game in the state, which lies in the north-east of India.

The North-East is probably the only region in India where cricket has taken a back seat, lacking far behind football. This shows that most of the north-eastern states do not even have a cricket team to play in the Ranji Trophy (Indian national cricket championships). Football is so popular in Manipur that most talented players currently coming-up in India, both women or men, come from the small north-eastern state. It shows that there is not only a passion among the people to watch football but also to play. This clearly distinguishes Manipuri women from women from other states all around India, where football is also popular but not much played by women.


The early exit of last year's semifinalists, Kerala and Orissa, was the shock of the tournament. Kerala, a semifinalist every year till now, failed to reach the knock-out stage for the first time. Kerala, apart from fielding at least five very senior players, who would do well to hang up their boots, also lost the services of Bentala D'Couth, who supervised matches including the final.
(The Sportstar, 24 June 2000)

Other states which also have football enthusiasts among women like their male counterparts are Goa, Kerala, Orissa and lately Punjab. But Kerala seems to have problems in finding talented youngsters for its state team. Manipur and Bengal, Goa, Kerala, Orissa and Punjab all have international players in their ranks but the over-dependence on the star players is a major problem for the teams.

Up to now football, like other sports in India is very job oriented. The job options for women footballers in India are extremely limited, as women footballers cannot make a living from football. So even today, except in a few places like Manipur, Goa, Bengal, Mumbai or Kerala, women's football has hardly any existence. The Government Undertaking Indian Railways are still the only agency, which enable women to have a job and play football. There are some others, like the government undertaking, the Income Tax Department and the Verona Company, which offer women money to play for them but that kind of offer does not necessarily guarantee them a job.

This situation is slowly changing at least in Calcutta, Bengal. Since the season 2000/01 onwards, two of India?s top football clubs, Mohun Bagan AC and East Bengal Club have joined the Calcutta Women?s Football League with their own women teams.
The final of the Calcutta Women?s Football League was held, as had been expected, between East Bengal and Mohun Bagan in front of 12.000 football supporters at the Rabindra Sarobar Stadium. East Bengal won 1–0 and the East Bengal fans cheered their women?s team the like their male counterparts!
The common sponsor of the two teams, the United Breweries Group, wants to bring in a touch of professionalism into the women's game, and make it popular in Calcutta and later on in other states as well.
The UB-Group commitment comes, as the company sees a lot of sponsorship possibilities in women's football in India, which would help them market their products and the entry of two of India top clubs will certainly help that goal.

Women's football had made some initial progress in the seventies but has little to talk about in terms of achievements after the Women's Football Federation of India was taken over by the All-India Football Federation in the early 1990s. The present AIFF president, Mr. Priya Ranjan Das Munshi, represents women's football in the federation but the game is always treated as the poor relation of the family. On a number of occasions, the WFFI even threatened to leave the AIFF due to a lack of proper support.

The Indian women?s team was criticised for conceding 36 goals in the 1998 Bangkok Asian Games, losing 0-7 to South Korea, 1-13 to Taiwan and a humiliating 0-16 against China but the team was neither given an exposure trip nor proper exposure nor proper exposure before the Asiad. As a practice match, the girls were made to play against the Bengal under-16 boys team at the SAI Eastern Centre in Calcutta, that was all.
On the other hand, after the women's team got an exposure trip to Germany in 1997, they played a successful Asian Women's Championships in China, winning by a record 10-0 against Guam, 3-0 against Hongkong and losing only 0-1 to Asian giants Japan. Due to a worse goal difference, the Indian women's team was unlucky to miss out on a semi-final spot and a chance to qualify for the 1999 FIFA Women's World Cup, played in the United States. The trip was not made possible by the All-India Football Federation but due to the hard work and help put forward by some Non-Resident Indians in Germany. The group of NRIs from the Stuttgart-Heilbronn area provided the women with training facilities which they had never enjoyed before, due to contacts with local clubs and the German football federation, DFB. During their trip to Germany, the women were taken very well care of by the German federation, something they sadly do not get from their own federation.
But this was not the only attempt by the German NRIs to help Indian women?s football. In February 2000 Sujata Kar , a striker, and Alpana Sil, a midfielder, came to Germany as the first Indian women players to sign a contract as women footballers outside India. The two Bengal players signed a three-month trial contract in Europe with German Oberliga Baden-Wuerttemberg league club TSV Crailsheim, with prospects of long–terms contract had they not returned only after a month of their arrival having played only a test match due to problems with their "International Transfer Clearance".


Favourites called the tune and the pretenders kept dancing till the end. The holder Manipur and last year's runner- up Bengal began their tune up to the summit clash on May 29 with run away victories in the opening quarterfinal group league matches of the 8th senior National Women's football Championship at the Karbi Anglong Sports Association ground here on Saturday.
Manipur, playing in its typical all-out attacking game, pumped in 10-0 against last year's semifinalist Kerala in a group E clash. Bengal scored only five goals without reply against Orissa as it preferred to take things easy in the second half of the group F tie. The highlight of the day was a hat-trick by Bengal and India striker Sujata Kar.
(The Hindu, 21 May 2000)

In the last few years the national championship for women has become a joke. Except for the finals involving Manipur and Bengal. Even the teams behind the big two, like Goa, Kerala, Assam and Maharashtra get beaten by huge margins by the top two. The problem is that most teams are too weak to compete with the top teams but even among the weaker teams there is a huge gap, so that weak teams beat even weaker teams, also by huge margins.
In the opener of the 2000 national championships in Diphu, Assam, the hosts Assam beat Rajasthan 26-0, equalling the 14-year record of Madhya Pradesh beating Gujarat. In the semi-finals Assam themselves one of the most improved teams in the 2000 championships, were trashed 12-0 by ruthless giants Manipur.
Another major problem is that the national championships for women are mostly hosted in remote places, where facilities are few and media coverage is near zero. Mainly local and state newspapers report about the championships; "The Hindu" is the only national newspaper to report on the championships.
只看该作者 7 发表于: 2007-05-28
引用第6楼mingming于2007-05-27 20:28发表的  :
让我拷贝一部分上来,可能只是4分一.
The following section will examine in depth the question whether women's football is also on the rise in India or not:
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非常感谢mingming,呵呵!!
这个南印度和北印度原来是这么回事,只是可惜这个的主题讲的是"印度女足20年",对我想了解的那届女足亚洲杯出现的两支印度队的来历的确解了惑,还没完全达到我的预期,我还以为是对那届女足亚洲杯的仔细描述呢,呵呵!!原来主要是讲印度女足20年发展历程的
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
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只看该作者 8 发表于: 2007-05-28
你也可以查查她们的history 嘛.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_India

这个是 manipur team history
http://santoshtrophy2002.nic.in/HistoryofAMFA.htm
[ 此贴被mingming在2007-05-28 03:03重新编辑 ]
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引用第8楼mingming于2007-05-28 02:37发表的  :
你也可以查查她们的history 嘛.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_India
这个是 manipur team history
.......

谢谢mingming,辛苦你了!!呵呵!
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
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