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只看该作者 25 发表于: 2013-03-29
沙特和也门、阿曼的大部分边界未定,要不是当年沙特王室得到了英帝的支持,或许也门会统一阿拉伯半岛。
只看该作者 26 发表于: 2013-03-29
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逐风天地:同求,不知道baiqitun君问过中图社的编辑吗? (2013-03-28 10:59) 

你挖坟啊。。。

我问过中图社编辑,人家说不予解释,总之是遵循国家意志。。我也想不通。。
我的微博:http://weibo.com/baiqitun
只看该作者 27 发表于: 2013-03-30
好像沙特给了也门4万平方公里吧
只看该作者 28 发表于: 2013-03-30
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baiqitun:你挖坟啊。。。
我问过中图社编辑,人家说不予解释,总之是遵循国家意志。。我也想不通。。 (2013-03-29 23:38) 

我昨天问微博小编,她说要遵循外交部的规定,外交部没说改,他们就不能改动国界。我很好奇,难道南苏丹的国界变更也是他们一直坐等到外交部主动来中图社要国界标准样图吗?

只看该作者 29 发表于: 2013-03-30
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漫步天空:好像沙特给了也门4万平方公里吧 (2013-03-30 11:38) 

割让那么多地?
小号:云中城堡
只看该作者 30 发表于: 2013-03-30
也不算割让,只是正式确认了一下边界。
只看该作者 31 发表于: 2013-04-03
换句话说现在边界已定而不是未定了?
只看该作者 32 发表于: 2013-04-03
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nb_fx:换句话说现在边界已定而不是未定了? (2013-04-03 21:16) 

是的是的是的。
只看该作者 33 发表于: 2013-04-03
大家可以看下这个论也门与沙特边界争端的解决 论也门与沙特边界争端的解决.rar (1425 K) 下载次数:188
只看该作者 34 发表于: 2013-04-04
可惜啦……新版地图册还是没有修改,这是一个痴想啊……
只看该作者 35 发表于: 2013-07-02
未定的边界给画成已定,这是不负责任的
只看该作者 36 发表于: 2013-07-02
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逐风天地:我昨天问微博小编,说要遵循外交部的规定,外交部没说改,他们就不能改动国界。我很好奇,难道南苏丹的国界变更也是他们一直坐等到外交部主动来中图社要国界标准样图吗? (2013-03-30 11:49) 

呃,那位微博小编是女的吗?我感觉是位大哥啊。@乱雨  
地名浩瀚如洋海,图籍丛立似森林。乾堪广阔随君去,坤舆辽远任我行。
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“阿森”(UID=171323)是“坤舆任我行”(UID=7138)的马甲。
只看该作者 37 发表于: 2013-07-02
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坤舆任我行:呃,那位微博小编是女的吗?我感觉是位大哥啊。@乱雨   (2013-07-02 11:08) 

据传,小编不止一人。
只看该作者 38 发表于: 2013-07-02
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逐风天地:据传,小编不止一人。 (2013-07-02 11:23) 

但是微博填写的性别是男,真正的使用人到底是几个、是男是女咱们没法干涉。
地名浩瀚如洋海,图籍丛立似森林。乾堪广阔随君去,坤舆辽远任我行。
坤舆任我行_阿森的新浪博客:http://blog.sina.com.cn/kyrwx
坤舆任我行_阿森的新浪微博:http://weibo.com/kyrwx(@坤舆任我行_阿森)
坤舆任我行_阿森的腾讯微信号:kyrwx23
坤舆任我行_阿森的腾讯QQ号:332171949、499348541
“阿森”(UID=171323)是“坤舆任我行”(UID=7138)的马甲。
只看该作者 39 发表于: 2013-07-02
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坤舆任我行:但是微博填写的性别是男,真正的使用人到底是几个、是男是女咱们没法干涉。 (2013-07-02 11:28) 

我可以负责任的告诉你,近期维护微博的人都是女性
我的微博:http://weibo.com/baiqitun
只看该作者 40 发表于: 2013-07-02
一般国界变更都需要外交部发文才能改的吧~ 其他机构只是提供参考信息而已不能决定改哒~ 微博小编有好几个人啦 不过怎么能看出是位大哥的呢啊哈哈 完全和大哥不搭边嘛
^^
只看该作者 41 发表于: 2013-07-02
还以为爷们最新消息。。。逐风者坟挖的。。。都十年了!
本人lnrdy(马甲lnrzk),老婆lnrer,儿子lnrrh,老弟lnr(小号lnrby)

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只看该作者 42 发表于: 2013-07-02
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baiqitun:我可以负责任的告诉你,近期维护微博的人都是女性 (2013-07-02 11:44) 

乱雨:
一般国界变更都需要外交部发文才能改的吧~ 其他机构只是提供参考信息而已不能决定改哒~ 微博小编有好几个人啦 不过怎么能看出是位大哥的呢啊哈哈 完全和大哥不搭边嘛

语言风格确实像女性,还是被填写的性别误导了。
至于为什么是“大哥”不是弟弟,记得是某位小编说当初给会刊写过产品介绍,那时候我还在高中。
地名浩瀚如洋海,图籍丛立似森林。乾堪广阔随君去,坤舆辽远任我行。
坤舆任我行_阿森的新浪博客:http://blog.sina.com.cn/kyrwx
坤舆任我行_阿森的新浪微博:http://weibo.com/kyrwx(@坤舆任我行_阿森)
坤舆任我行_阿森的腾讯微信号:kyrwx23
坤舆任我行_阿森的腾讯QQ号:332171949、499348541
“阿森”(UID=171323)是“坤舆任我行”(UID=7138)的马甲。
只看该作者 43 发表于: 2013-07-02
国产的地图本就落后很多
只看该作者 44 发表于: 2013-07-17

挖坟就挖坟吧,看看这个。。。

也门划分为21个省(muhafazah),333个县,2,210个乡,38,284个村。

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只看该作者 45 发表于: 2013-07-17
Yemen-Saudi Arabia land boundary arbitration
On June 12, 2000, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Yemen signed an agreement which finally delineated the border between the two states. Previous to doing so, the lack of a boundary between the two had become known as the “last missing fence in the desert,” i.e. the last remaining border in Peninsular Arabia which was as yet to be agreed.

The dispute had its origin in the withdrawal of Ottoman influence on the Arabian Peninsula, a growing regional awareness of the notion of the “state” and a complex power-play between tribal and dynastic groups within the region at large. And of course, the British presence in Aden had repercussions which endured until the Aden Emergency and beyond.

A boundary between Yemen and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was first agreed in 1935 following a brief war between Ibn Saud and the Imam of Yemen, Imam Yahya. The war was fought over the border region of Asir, claimed by the Imamate but effectively under Saudi control (and arguably a dormant thorn in the flesh of contemporary Saudi/Yemeni relations.)

The subsequent peace agreement (signed in the coastal town of Taifa and hence “the Taifa Agreement”) delimited a boundary from Midi, a point on the shared coastline, to an oasis near the town of Najran, but left the boundary east of that point undelimited.

The Taifa Agreement was (and according to a clause within the treaty itself) renewed every 20 years – but not always with a great deal of ceremony. Relations between the two countries reflected and were driven by the plethora of ideological and economic factors which emerged within the peninsular in the 20th century (including Nasserism, the Soviet influence, and the discovery of oil in the KSA). But it was the emergence of “two Yemens,” and the cycle of war and rapprochement which dominated.

In the last decade of the 20th century, many of the contradictions in the Yemeni/Saudi relationship came to the fore – hinting that an agreed boundary would not be on the cards for decades to come. Yemen remained largely dependent on Saudi financial assistance and on remittances from the large Yemeni labour force in Saudi which was so sorely needed for that country's development, and relations plummeted after the Saudi government suspected Yemen of siding with Iraq after the latter's invasion of Kuwait – and some 880,000 Yemenis were returned across the border, many of whom would spend years in hastily erected camps for internally displaced persons.

Nonetheless, it became apparent that there existed a shared desire to resolve the border issue – strong enough even to survive a six month Yemeni civil war, border clashes around the Asir region, and a confrontation on the island of Duweimah in May 1998.

Each had strong reasons for resolving the issue. Terrorism had become a significant issue for Saudi Arabia and in order to securitize the border it was necessary to establish in international law its exact position. The Yemeni government was anxious to normalize relations with its wealthy northern neighbour in order that it might invest more heavily, and absorb some of the workers still displaced within Yemen. The need to clarify the position for the sake of interested oil companies, also played a role, as did the encouragement of the United States.

In 2000, the treaty was agreed by arbitration proceedings (during which Menas Associates and Richard Schofield were involved on behalf of Yemen), with the The International Boundary Treaty between Yemen and Saudi Arabia being signed June 12th.

The Treaty covers the entire Saudi-Yemeni maritime and land boundary “stretching from the tripoint of the Yemeni–Omani-Saudi land boundaries in the east to the tri-point of the Yemeni-Eritrean-Saudi maritime boundary in the Red Sea," dividing the maritime and land boundaries into three sectors, the first covering the border extending from the Red Sea coast at a land terminus “located at the quay of ras al-mu'waj…to the mountain jabar al-thar” (i.e., the line defined and largely demarcated in the Treaty of Taif), while a second sector refers to the area which had previously been undefined and runs from jabal al-thar to the intersection of the Saudi, Yemeni and Omani boundaries at 52 east longitude, 19 north latitude, while the third sector defines the maritime boundary in the Red Sea between Saudi, Eritrea and Yemen.

The subsequent decade has indeed seen an upturn in relations between the two countries – although immediate events subsequent to the agreement were not wholly without event. The border zone was and is only sparsely inhabited, however numerous and well-armed tribal groups took exception to the delimitation and to the imposition of nationality by a previously undecided boundary. And within a year of the signing, the government of Yemen was complaining that Saudi governments had literally over-stepped the mark in their creation of a “security wall,” in an attempt to reduce the incidence of gun smuggling. The Saudis subsequently scaled down their efforts, and tension subsided, although the relationship between Yemen and Saudi remains complex, and not without contradictions.
只看该作者 46 发表于: 2013-07-17
不太懂政治,这个我就不翻译了。。。
只看该作者 47 发表于: 2013-07-18


看看这个,发帖数限制,今天才发的。
沙特也门边界条约相关文本 bsb8-2_roberts.pdf (734 K) 下载次数:18
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只看该作者 48 发表于: 2013-08-12
哈哈,只要事不关己就高高挂起!哪天中印边界订约了,地图肯定改的比猴还快!
THESAUR.AMER.SEPTENT.SIGIL.
只看该作者 49 发表于: 2013-08-12
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挖坟就挖坟吧,看看这个。。。
也门划分为21个省(muhafazah),333个县,2,210个乡,38,284个村。
....... (2013-07-17 13:37) 

http://xzqh.info/bbs/read.php?tid=82059

论坛里其实早已出过也门政区图
一个人在多大年纪上成名,他的心理年龄就会停留在那个年纪
http://weibo.com/u/1345017411
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